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to work hard and raise children and pay taxes without having a vote in congress. director katherine bigelow's film zero dark 30 glorifies torture. she said she is a pacifist and supports protests against torture, but writes i do wonder if some of the sentiment expressed about the film might be more appropriately directed as those who institute and ordered these u.s. policies as opposed to a motion picture that brings the story to the screen. those are things we thought you should know. time now for the gut check. the president called for sweeping new legislation to curb gun violence and ask lawmakers to take the next step. >> to make a real and lasting dnchs, congress too must act and act soon. >> i'm calling to ask proposals right away. >> what does your gut tell you? will republicans give any support to the president's proposa proposals? go to facebook.com/"news nation" and we will have the results tomorrow. that does it for this erkz additi edition of "news nation." the cycle is up next. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll als
to work hard and raise children and pay taxes without having a vote in congress. director katherine bigelow's film zero dark 30 glorifies torture. she said she is a pacifist and supports protests against torture, but writes i do wonder if some of the sentiment expressed about the film might be more appropriately directed as those who institute and ordered these u.s. policies as opposed to a motion picture that brings the story to the screen. those are things we thought you should know. time now...
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the fiscal negotiations and our spending and taxes, the taxes one i think is closed, come down to this. the reason we can't get a deal is that for each party each party s trying to get from the negotiations what they are being asked to five up in the negotiations. -- give up in the negotiations. hard to get a deal that a way. >> check out panel plus where our group pubs up with the discuss on our -- picks up with our discussion on the website. follow us on twitter. up next, our power player of the week. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ two inches apart, becky. two inches. t-minus nine minutes. [ ding ] [ female announcer ] pillsbury cinnamon rolls. let the making begin. ♪ ... >>. >> chris: up till now she let her husband lead on public life as she has been as private as she can be. but she has decided to help more people by stepping forward. here is our power player of the week. >> it's the point of everyone. >> carol geithner is talking about it. for the last 20 years she has worked as a counselor and now a novelist to help people deal with loss. >> sharing their story,
the fiscal negotiations and our spending and taxes, the taxes one i think is closed, come down to this. the reason we can't get a deal is that for each party each party s trying to get from the negotiations what they are being asked to five up in the negotiations. -- give up in the negotiations. hard to get a deal that a way. >> check out panel plus where our group pubs up with the discuss on our -- picks up with our discussion on the website. follow us on twitter. up next, our power...
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the fiscal negotiations and our spending and taxes, the taxes one i think is closed, come down to this. the reason we can't get a deal is that for each party each party s trying to get from the negotiations what they are being asked to five up in the negotiations. -- give up in the negotiations. hard to get a deal that a way. >> check out panel plus where our group pubs up with the discuss on our -- picks up with our discussion on the website. follow us on twitter. up next, our power player of the week. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. a great cup of coffee should be easy as one, two... well, just one. new single serve cafe collections from maxwell house now available for use in the keurig k-cup brewer. always good to the last drop. now available for use in the keurig k-cup brewer. ...so as you can see, geico's custome
the fiscal negotiations and our spending and taxes, the taxes one i think is closed, come down to this. the reason we can't get a deal is that for each party each party s trying to get from the negotiations what they are being asked to five up in the negotiations. -- give up in the negotiations. hard to get a deal that a way. >> check out panel plus where our group pubs up with the discuss on our -- picks up with our discussion on the website. follow us on twitter. up next, our power...
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the fiscal negotiations and our spending and taxes, the taxes one i think is closed, come down to this. the reason we can't get a deal is that for each party each party s trying to get from the negotiations what they are being asked to five up in the negotiations. -- give up in the negotiations. hard to get a deal that a way. >> check out panel plus where our group pubs up with the discuss on our -- picks up with our discussion on the website. follow us on twitter. up next, our power player of the week. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't knowt yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>. >> chris: up till now she let her husband lead on public life as she has b
the fiscal negotiations and our spending and taxes, the taxes one i think is closed, come down to this. the reason we can't get a deal is that for each party each party s trying to get from the negotiations what they are being asked to five up in the negotiations. -- give up in the negotiations. hard to get a deal that a way. >> check out panel plus where our group pubs up with the discuss on our -- picks up with our discussion on the website. follow us on twitter. up next, our power...
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the reality is, an agreement that has taxes in, spending cuts, but also the debt ceiling would not be a negotiation. >> and jennifer, what's interesting, i keep hearing from republican leadership. they would love to actually, they don't want, the debt limit is not where they want to have this focus. they want it on the government shutdown, the continuing resolution, but they don't know how to get their members to see it the way they see it. >> that's right. a long time ago in the ages of 2011, they thought that using the debt ceiling was a great idea and got them great leverage. they have climbed up the mountain and rig down the mountain so many times with this president. >> climbed down the mountain. i think it was a -- >> good point. talk about a cliff. but, you're right. they don't really want to play that game. they don't want to be accused of not paying the country's bill, but how do thaw use that leverage in order to finally get to cuts, which the president said will be coming, but never seems to come in their lives. >> back to the white house here, boy, the markets would love t
the reality is, an agreement that has taxes in, spending cuts, but also the debt ceiling would not be a negotiation. >> and jennifer, what's interesting, i keep hearing from republican leadership. they would love to actually, they don't want, the debt limit is not where they want to have this focus. they want it on the government shutdown, the continuing resolution, but they don't know how to get their members to see it the way they see it. >> that's right. a long time ago in the...
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by the death tax. people didn't like it before. they don't like it now. >> i feel like with gun laws in particular the second amendment is the go-to argument. it is the banner under which the nra marches. >> i think it's enjoyable for people who felt like they're being bullied by the second amendment, and -- until obama went out and said you have a right to worship freely, i really don't. i tend to think that the people who -- >> i think that it does reframe it so that folks actually feel comfortable coming in, and actually supporting. what i mean by that is, like, nra members are actually overwhelmingly in support of a lot of the stuff with the president is doing, and by saying it actually gives them talking points to talk to their friends and family about it, and that's what they're trying to do. >> right. >> and if glen is right and we're moving towards a second term in which the president is going to be more forth rightly liberal and more principled, then this makes sense, right. this is re-establi
by the death tax. people didn't like it before. they don't like it now. >> i feel like with gun laws in particular the second amendment is the go-to argument. it is the banner under which the nra marches. >> i think it's enjoyable for people who felt like they're being bullied by the second amendment, and -- until obama went out and said you have a right to worship freely, i really don't. i tend to think that the people who -- >> i think that it does reframe it so that folks...
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reform by closing loopholes in our tax reform for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of saving through -- we can solve the deficit issues without sacrificing things like our investments in education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair for example to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or for a scientist to shut down ground breaking research so that a multimillionaire can pay less taxes than a secretary. they don't think it's smart to close endless loopholes for wealthy americans rather than invest in our roads and to help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. they want us to bring our books in order no a balanced way where everybody pulls their weight and everybody does their part. that's what i want as well. that pie that's what i've proposed. and we can get it done, but we're going to have to make sure that people are looking at
reform by closing loopholes in our tax reform for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of saving through -- we can solve the deficit issues without sacrificing things like our investments in education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair for example to ask a senior to pay more for his or...
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i didn't say that i would not have any conversations at all about extending the bush tax cuts. i just said we wouldn't extend them for the wealthy. we didn't. you can argue that during the campaign i said -- i set the criteria for wealthy at $250,000, and we ended up being at $400,000, but the fact of the matter is millionaires and billionairres are paying significantly more in taxes just as i said. so for, you know, from the start, my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was fair and it protected the middle class, and my biggest priority was making sure that middle class taxes did not go up. the difference between this year and 20112 is the fact that we have already made $1.2 trillion in cuts, and at the time i indicated that there were cuts that we could sensibly make that would not damage our economy, would not impede growth. i said at the time i think we should pair it up with revenue in order to have an overall balanced package, but my own budget reflected cuts in discretionary spending. my own budget reflected the cuts that needed to be made, and we've made
i didn't say that i would not have any conversations at all about extending the bush tax cuts. i just said we wouldn't extend them for the wealthy. we didn't. you can argue that during the campaign i said -- i set the criteria for wealthy at $250,000, and we ended up being at $400,000, but the fact of the matter is millionaires and billionairres are paying significantly more in taxes just as i said. so for, you know, from the start, my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was...
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we can be for lower taxes, less government, less regulation. we can agree on that. but that is sick. why don't they call him up and say shut up once in awhile. your thoughts? >> they should. and if rush limbaugh actually saw that classroom after that morning, the reality of the situation that we're talking about. >> two to eleven bullets in each kid. unrecognizable children. remember being in first grade? >> i have a son who's there. >> we all remember it a little bit. in a powerful moment today the president spoke about meeting the parents of newtown victim grace mcdonnell. there she is. let's take a look. >> grace was seven years old when she was struck down. just a gorgeous, caring, joyful little girl. i'm told she loved pink. she loved the beach. she dreamed of becoming a painter. chris, her father, gave me one of her paintings. and i hung it in my private study just off the oval office. and every time i look at that painting, i think about grace. and i think about the life that she lived and the life that lay ahead of her. and most of all i think about how when
we can be for lower taxes, less government, less regulation. we can agree on that. but that is sick. why don't they call him up and say shut up once in awhile. your thoughts? >> they should. and if rush limbaugh actually saw that classroom after that morning, the reality of the situation that we're talking about. >> two to eleven bullets in each kid. unrecognizable children. remember being in first grade? >> i have a son who's there. >> we all remember it a little bit....
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ronald reagan raised the debt ceiling when necessary without complaint, and raised taxes more than once. and reagan was in favor of a ban on assault weapons just like president obama. >> right, and that comment was a way of saying that these are very centrist reforms, really common sense things that most americans agree with. he emphasized that in a few ways and a few times during that time. and i think the framing you're talking about, too, is really important. it is not just guns they're looking at. they're looking at mental health and research, links between violent media. you know, they are looking at more armed school resource officers at schools and providing funding for that. but i think constantly framing it, these are things that just make sense that the majority of americans support. and how can the republicans be so intransigent, not be even willing to discuss or consider any of these measures. >> richard, a month ago we heard the pundits say hand it off to joe biden and you will be involved in a senate committee process and lose all the momentum. well, this president/joe bid
ronald reagan raised the debt ceiling when necessary without complaint, and raised taxes more than once. and reagan was in favor of a ban on assault weapons just like president obama. >> right, and that comment was a way of saying that these are very centrist reforms, really common sense things that most americans agree with. he emphasized that in a few ways and a few times during that time. and i think the framing you're talking about, too, is really important. it is not just guns...
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if you look at the ryan plan, it had 20% tax cuts in it and it didn't balance the budget for another 30 years. it was not a deficit reduction -- >> let me make a point about that. >> jared, go ahead. >> listen to this. this is underappreciated. the paul ryan budget plan required an increase in the debt ceiling. let's be very clear about that. i completely agree with jonathan on this. in fact, these are people who pose as budget hawks. they're really chicken hawks. >> those are the people who are going after chuck hagel who didn't serve in vietnam. >> varijared, the president yesterday in talking about proposals to deal with the issue of gun violence mentioned the idea of employing another 14,000 police officers as part of a gun control package. okay? >> right. >> but doesn't that have the double value of not only increasing protections but also actually employing people? >> right. when i heard that -- >> but is that -- does that come under the word stimulus that paul ryan finds unacceptable. >> i'm afraid if you call it stimulus it may not happen, but yes. but yes, you're right. one
if you look at the ryan plan, it had 20% tax cuts in it and it didn't balance the budget for another 30 years. it was not a deficit reduction -- >> let me make a point about that. >> jared, go ahead. >> listen to this. this is underappreciated. the paul ryan budget plan required an increase in the debt ceiling. let's be very clear about that. i completely agree with jonathan on this. in fact, these are people who pose as budget hawks. they're really chicken hawks. >>...
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higher taxes on households making above $450,000 and other tax increases will raise an additional $600 billion in revenue by 2022. but that's not enough. and as democrats and republicans gear up over the next few months to debate spending cuts, debt limits and the federal budget, there still is not a credible plan out there that puts a serious dent in the debt. but douglas durst still holds out hope that one day he'll be able to retire his dad's debt clock. >> i'm an optimist. we would have a very big party. >> reporter: alison kosik, cnn, new york. >>> speaking of money, if you're looking for that job that really pays, you probably want to get a college degree or pick up a second degree. that is right. ali velshi and christine romans take a look at the careers and the schools that can help you get ahead. >> thanks. okay. so when christine and i were in college, the idea was to study kind of whatever you -- those were in the days before cable -- study whatever you wanted and the world was your oyster if you got a university degree. if you had to go back and make a choice today about wh
higher taxes on households making above $450,000 and other tax increases will raise an additional $600 billion in revenue by 2022. but that's not enough. and as democrats and republicans gear up over the next few months to debate spending cuts, debt limits and the federal budget, there still is not a credible plan out there that puts a serious dent in the debt. but douglas durst still holds out hope that one day he'll be able to retire his dad's debt clock. >> i'm an optimist. we would...
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and many thought president obama wanted to go over in order to raise taxes. to do the same thing over the debt ceiling and get full blame for it, it could genuinely destroy the republican party, of course while destroying the economy. >> there is that little problem, for republicans. so what about this point, ezra, that the president, the federal government could easily meet its obligations on actual debt payments through bonds and that sort of thing. but it would be the spending, the discretionary spending that they would have to cut under these circumstances. so there wouldn't ever be, many republicans insist they wouldn't ever be a realistic prospect of default in this. and that is why the president uses the word "obligations," instead of the word debt because they may just agree with them that there wouldn't actually be a debt default. >> it is unclear, we literally don't know what would happen because it never happened bef e before. so a legal authority is not all obvious. so there is a question, for the treasury department, to decide if we pay off the b
and many thought president obama wanted to go over in order to raise taxes. to do the same thing over the debt ceiling and get full blame for it, it could genuinely destroy the republican party, of course while destroying the economy. >> there is that little problem, for republicans. so what about this point, ezra, that the president, the federal government could easily meet its obligations on actual debt payments through bonds and that sort of thing. but it would be the spending, the...
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. >> in our budget that we will pass, we lift tax reform, which went many of my republican colleagues' way, but it's going to include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us some more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration. >> so where does this fit in? >> i think where republicans have a legitimate critique of democrats is that democrats have not presented a budget in four years. if you look back at history is an irresponsible way of budgeting. it's how we would have budgeted in washington or college. maybe they won't present one, maybe they will. they have to at some point. the continuing operations of the government that bill expires in march. we have to do something. the big one is the debt limit. do we lift the debt limit so you can continue to borrow more money to fund the government? republicans are coming to the conclusion that they'll figure out a way to do that. even that's not a given. republicans have had it with spending. they feel they're going to use these leverage points, even ones that really could have, i think, a catastrophic effect on the economy. th
. >> in our budget that we will pass, we lift tax reform, which went many of my republican colleagues' way, but it's going to include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us some more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration. >> so where does this fit in? >> i think where republicans have a legitimate critique of democrats is that democrats have not presented a budget in four years. if you look back at history is an irresponsible way of budgeting. it's how we...
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they have to show they stand for more than tax cuts for the rich. they have to understand that they want government to do things like help the hurricane victims which most voted against in the case of sandy. they need more moderate people to vote in the republican primaries.
they have to show they stand for more than tax cuts for the rich. they have to understand that they want government to do things like help the hurricane victims which most voted against in the case of sandy. they need more moderate people to vote in the republican primaries.
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they have to show they stand for more than tax cuts for the rich. they have to understand that they want government to do things like help the hurricane victims which most voted against in the case of sandy. they need more moderate people to vote in the republican primaries. they won't het them become more moderates and i think this is a deep problem and i think if some said we want him to bring this to the floor. it would send a signal to the moderates. >> 26% is how many support keeping assault weapons available to everyone. it is an amazing cross checking of the polls. >> and again i think you see that 26% overlapping with the tea party 26%. i think the republicans are dealing with public opinion that is influx. you have had a shift in favor of stricter gun laws since the
they have to show they stand for more than tax cuts for the rich. they have to understand that they want government to do things like help the hurricane victims which most voted against in the case of sandy. they need more moderate people to vote in the republican primaries. they won't het them become more moderates and i think this is a deep problem and i think if some said we want him to bring this to the floor. it would send a signal to the moderates. >> 26% is how many support keeping...
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at the end of the day, it doesn't really change the status of washingtonians who feel they are taxed without being represented in d.c. but symbolically, something that washingtonians were looking for and he's delivering on that, made some people happy yesterday. >> carrie, great to see you. thank you. >> thanks, thomas. >>> as we await the president's announcement on gun control proposals, we asked and you answered, did the nra go too far by focusing on president obama's daughters in a new ad. k.j.l. tweets yes, this new ad is disgusting. you can be a member, want to protect second amendment rights and say no to assault weapons. from patricia, does the nra understand the magnitude of the potus' daughters being a member of the first family and what that entails? from rusty, absolutely. family members should always be off limits. we encourage you to keep the comments coming in to us on twitter or facebook. also, how does the white house now respond to the nra ad? we'll have a live report from the white house next. [ male announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. an
at the end of the day, it doesn't really change the status of washingtonians who feel they are taxed without being represented in d.c. but symbolically, something that washingtonians were looking for and he's delivering on that, made some people happy yesterday. >> carrie, great to see you. thank you. >> thanks, thomas. >>> as we await the president's announcement on gun control proposals, we asked and you answered, did the nra go too far by focusing on president obama's...
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i've also said that we need more revenue through tax reform, by closing loopholes in our tax code for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair, for example, to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or a scientist to shut down life-saving research so that a multimillionaire investor can pay less in tax rates than a secretary. they don't think it's smart to protect endless corporate loopholes and tax breaks for the wealthiest americans rather than rebuild our roads and schools and invest in our worker's skills or help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. so they want us to get our books in order in a balanced way, where everybody pulls their weight, everyone does t
i've also said that we need more revenue through tax reform, by closing loopholes in our tax code for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision...
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. >>> the gun control debate who will be our next secretary of defense and whether your taxes are going to go up. in case you missed them, they were some of the topics on the sunday political talk shows. to save you some time, we brought together the bright points. take a look. >> do you think you have enough support on alcohol kohl keep an assault weapons ban from passing? >> if he is willing to expend the political capital, you don't want to make predictions, and yo you don't want to bet your house on the outcome, but i would say that the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get an assault weapons ban through this congress. >> this is not your father's nra, but it represents gun manufacturers and less than half of the funding comes from their member, and they make tens of millions of dollars off of the purchases of guns. >> just his overall temperament and is he suited to run a department or big agency or big entity like the pentagon? >> you have questions about his temperament? >> i think -- i think -- i think there are numbers of staffers who are coming forth now just
. >>> the gun control debate who will be our next secretary of defense and whether your taxes are going to go up. in case you missed them, they were some of the topics on the sunday political talk shows. to save you some time, we brought together the bright points. take a look. >> do you think you have enough support on alcohol kohl keep an assault weapons ban from passing? >> if he is willing to expend the political capital, you don't want to make predictions, and yo you...
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people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be a disaster. and what we're doing right now as the president correctly said today, is actua
people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's...
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higher estate tax rate. but it could have been worse. >> i think that the wealthy got off pretty easily here. there's a modest tax increase for the very wealthiest in this society, a very tiny percentage. i, frankly, that there are more taxes coming and they're going to bite more deeply into the middle class. >> approximately two-thirds of american will pay more taxes. the tax bite for the middle class comes from the end of payroll tax cut, which wasn't renewed in the fiscal cliff deal. but whatever happened to comprehensive tax reform? >> the irs tax code is still a nightmare. it's too complex, too costly, and too unfair. >> reporter: both sides say they're open to simplifying the tax code. more than 70,000 pages in 2012. the u.s. government gives away more than $1 trillion a year in tax breaks, but republicans say reform isn't about squeezing more money out of taxpayers. >> i think tax reform is a good idea, but now that we have resolved the revenue issue, tax reform ought to be revenue neutral, as it was
higher estate tax rate. but it could have been worse. >> i think that the wealthy got off pretty easily here. there's a modest tax increase for the very wealthiest in this society, a very tiny percentage. i, frankly, that there are more taxes coming and they're going to bite more deeply into the middle class. >> approximately two-thirds of american will pay more taxes. the tax bite for the middle class comes from the end of payroll tax cut, which wasn't renewed in the fiscal cliff...
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as a former governor, you're also losing tax revenue depending on your state's structure for drilling. if it's federal land, the government wants that little revenue stream from gas. >> jennifer: i'm just so curious, i've actually been dying to talk to you. you are the guy who follows this stuff closer than almost anybody, and you have such an objective hat on. everybody has talked about the problems with natural gas fracking, and the potential of co2. the question bottom line, can we do this safely and lead in producing natural gas as a way of exporting it to other countries, to china, for example, to help them lower their co2 footprint to address climb change? >> i wrote several pieces about china has a huge amount of gas in the ground there shale gas as well. a lot of experts i've talked to they say the best thing to do is advance our technology to extract the gas here, to the lng liquified exports to balance our trade across the pacific but you do need oversight. this is not going to work out right withouted a adequate oversight. there was a period where it was a wild west era. pe
as a former governor, you're also losing tax revenue depending on your state's structure for drilling. if it's federal land, the government wants that little revenue stream from gas. >> jennifer: i'm just so curious, i've actually been dying to talk to you. you are the guy who follows this stuff closer than almost anybody, and you have such an objective hat on. everybody has talked about the problems with natural gas fracking, and the potential of co2. the question bottom line, can we do...
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tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at the federal reserve allowing the government to pay off bills should congress fail to act. over the weekend the treasury d department ruled out the idea. >>> before we go to break. shoot me an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc and let me know why you're awake. you can also tweet me. >>> still ahead on "way too early," a wild weekend for the nfl as the atlanta fallons break their playoff slump in dramatic fashion. i'll bring you all the weekend highlights next in sports, if i make it. >>> and it was a big night for fans of "homeland" and a little-known show called "game change." we'll also get a ch
tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at...
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they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't have this majority of support from the party and pretty big, as well. >> all right. mark, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. talk to you tomorrow on these things. >>> former president george h.w. bush has now been released from the hospital in houston today and headed home. mr. bush was admitted to the hospital around thanksgiving, suffering from a severe case of bronchitis. in the stay, developed a fever. doctors say he'll continue physical therapy at home. mr. bush is 88 years old. >>> my starting point is not to worry about the politics
they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't...
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. >> this is why what joe is saying is so important and the no label, because whether it is taxes or guns or other issues, you know the two or three components in tend, and she ends a no-brainer for most, p but that is why bringing together the coalition in congress and the senate is so important, and no labels is a start. >> senator, the last word, because you are a position that you do vote in the senate, and your words post newtown were taken originally as senator manchin is now opposed assault weapon based on the conversation. >> based on the conversation. >> so am i correct in interpreting that sure, you would talk about an assault weapons ban, but it has to be in a more holistic package? >> well, no labels and problem solvers and to be be a member of that is something that does not cost a thing. no labels brings people together. ki talk about i can talk about it, because i don't own assault weapons, but i have guns, but not multiclips, and i need to talk to people who believe they need those and i want to talk to people who go to gun shows who feel they do not have to be regist
. >> this is why what joe is saying is so important and the no label, because whether it is taxes or guns or other issues, you know the two or three components in tend, and she ends a no-brainer for most, p but that is why bringing together the coalition in congress and the senate is so important, and no labels is a start. >> senator, the last word, because you are a position that you do vote in the senate, and your words post newtown were taken originally as senator manchin is now...
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because there is a large transfer of wealth in tax dollars from the north down to the south. so why they would want to mess with that arrangement is beyond me. >> professor michael eric dyson and ryan grim whose office enjoys watching our broadcast even as he speaks to us, thanks very much. much more ahead. but first sue herrera has the market wrap. >> good afternoon. here's a look how today wall street finished the trading session. it snapped a winning streak. and the dow finishes the trading session on the downside by about 24 points or so. the standard & poor's fractionally higher by a quarter of a point. and the nasdaq up about seven points on the trading session. that's it from cnbc. we are first in business worldwide. martin is back after a very quick break. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get marr
because there is a large transfer of wealth in tax dollars from the north down to the south. so why they would want to mess with that arrangement is beyond me. >> professor michael eric dyson and ryan grim whose office enjoys watching our broadcast even as he speaks to us, thanks very much. much more ahead. but first sue herrera has the market wrap. >> good afternoon. here's a look how today wall street finished the trading session. it snapped a winning streak. and the dow finishes...
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a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad to me about that is that by virtue of mentioning the phrase climate change, it's almost like colin powell has kicked himself out of the republican party. this party used to play ball on that issue. now they're denying the actual science behind it. they have swung so far right, and my question after all of this, after that interview which was incendiary and was very much a line in the sand for the gop -- >> it's history making. >> when will the republican party admit they have a problem? because every time something like this happens, there is a doubling down, there is a defense, there is an attack on th
a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours. >> the new nra ad, which i may say i personally find utterly pathetic. earlier we spoke to the cousins of ashley moser. they have a website. log on to helpash.org if you want to help. i thank my guests. tomorrow the man who called me a you willy for my take on guns, ben shapiro returns. before we go just leave me with an overview of how you feel this has gone tonight. >> listen, it's been a good discussion. but something has to happen. and i hope the president takes a very strong measure tomorrow and i hope congress has the courage to back him up with the appropriate legislation. although i have my doubts because their past has not been any indication that they'll take strong action in the future. but i'll try to be optimistic. listen, i've heard a lot of people talk about reality checks. i've been a cop 42 years. i've been to hundreds if not thousands of crime scenes. don't know how many homi
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours. >> the new nra ad, which i may say i personally find utterly pathetic. earlier we spoke to the cousins of ashley moser. they have a website. log on to helpash.org if you want to help. i thank my guests. tomorrow the man who called me a you willy for my take on guns, ben shapiro returns. before we...
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as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's message is out of sync with that heartbeat, and i think there are ways and opportunities for them to get back in sync to lay out that concern about the second amendment and why the protection is important, but put it out there in the context of those kids who were killed because that's what people see most of all. >> let's talk about the president's strength now. bob, this monday and -- this tuesday he will have taken the oath a second time. the american people have doubled down on this president, a majority of the american people have voted for this guy. two majority votes. he will have that in his poc
as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's...
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compared with the fiscal cliff which was by all accounts a roughly familiar tax and spending debate, this one has far more import because it will determine whether among other things the united states continues to make good on the obligations it has already undertaken. interest and principal on the debt we have borrowed. our credit rating which was so famously downgraded in the summer of 2011 hangs in the balance here. and of course, people on both sides of the aisle are fighting over whether it is fair game to use the debt ceiling as a piece of political leverage to get the government to stop its spending. on the one hand, people on the right say, well, what else are we going to use? we are engaging in sort of financial madness spending so much so we have to use whatever tool is available there and you heard the president yesterday, tamron, saying this is like taking the economy hostage by threatening not to pay debts that we have already incured. >> tyler, as i mentioned, the dow up just a little bit today. how soon will we see perhaps start to see an impact on the arrows on the sc
compared with the fiscal cliff which was by all accounts a roughly familiar tax and spending debate, this one has far more import because it will determine whether among other things the united states continues to make good on the obligations it has already undertaken. interest and principal on the debt we have borrowed. our credit rating which was so famously downgraded in the summer of 2011 hangs in the balance here. and of course, people on both sides of the aisle are fighting over whether...
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he said i vote for every tax cut. i vote for every appropriations and i always vote against the debt ceiling. i say, if everyone did that, it would be anarchy. he said, what do you think this place is, on the level? that's what these guys are doing, total, complete fraud and in the end republicans are not going to want to say we'll put the full faith and credit in the united states at risk, so we can cut medicare. that just won't happen. >> that's what people are betting on. >> that's exactly what republicans are betting on. we went to the well. we let the president get what he wanted on the fiscal cliff. but when it comes to the debt ceiling, he's going to have to cough up some spending cuts and they are saying they are prepared to go to the brink on this even if it means, you know, questioning the full faith and credit of the american government. >> but, yeah -- >> look, the republicans need to wake up and get real. we're the only country on earth that has a debt ceiling limit. ultimately as part of a grand bargain
he said i vote for every tax cut. i vote for every appropriations and i always vote against the debt ceiling. i say, if everyone did that, it would be anarchy. he said, what do you think this place is, on the level? that's what these guys are doing, total, complete fraud and in the end republicans are not going to want to say we'll put the full faith and credit in the united states at risk, so we can cut medicare. that just won't happen. >> that's what people are betting on. >>...
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i wasn't separating out about the specifics of entitlement reform and tax reform from the larger issue of how to bring the middle class back, because they are all tied together, david. you can't have one without the other. >> i understand. but the republican thinking in congress has been that the cuts are enough. and that is not the answer. >> no, no, i couldn't agree more. if you take just education and job creation, for example, there is going to be a sea change in american education, which is already underway. go long on community colleges. >> yes. >> developing a skill set. >> yes. we need to support that. and we need to support that, but i need to challenge one thing -- >> medicaid and medicare together. medicare and medicaid together. within 10 years, it devours every cent. >> there's a progressive argument for dealing with that issue. >> which is what? when are we going to hear it? >> well, i want to challenge you and you as well, david, on this point. >> challenge the president, david. >> no, you and you. the premise that the president has not been venturesome in this area, has
i wasn't separating out about the specifics of entitlement reform and tax reform from the larger issue of how to bring the middle class back, because they are all tied together, david. you can't have one without the other. >> i understand. but the republican thinking in congress has been that the cuts are enough. and that is not the answer. >> no, no, i couldn't agree more. if you take just education and job creation, for example, there is going to be a sea change in american...
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xlees with tax breaks for rum distillers? i need a drunk. >>> i'm kry is tal ball. are we turning our kids in to narcissists? >>> a dope. lance armstrong comes clean to the queen of talk but who needed the interview more, lance or oprah? >>> i'm shooting straight coming to guns. ready, aim? "the cycle" is on fire. >>> the house is back and getting serious about the constitution. members spent 1:05 reciting the entire u.s. constitution. it's the basis of our government, of course, but this is only the second time ever the entire document was read aloud in the house. >> we the people of the united states in order to form a more perfect union -- >> no person except a natural-born citizen shall be eligible to the office of president. >>> the powers to all cases of law and equity. >> full faith and credit given in each state to the public acts. >> congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. >> neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the united states. >> the
xlees with tax breaks for rum distillers? i need a drunk. >>> i'm kry is tal ball. are we turning our kids in to narcissists? >>> a dope. lance armstrong comes clean to the queen of talk but who needed the interview more, lance or oprah? >>> i'm shooting straight coming to guns. ready, aim? "the cycle" is on fire. >>> the house is back and getting serious about the constitution. members spent 1:05 reciting the entire u.s. constitution. it's the...
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because in our budget that we will pass, we will lift tax reform, which many of my republican colleagues liked, but it will include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration and deal with the issue of -- >> but senator schumer, the db i want to get senator cruz's response here, but the reality is that the president is willing to throw the long ball on this big sunday of football, when it comes the gun control. and yet because of his view of republican recalcitrants, he doesn't step up and show real leadership and be proactive on a big spending cut proposal and medicare put proposal because he doesn't want to go there. why throw the long ball when it comes to gun control but not take a leadership role when it comes to spending cuts? >> well, he is. in the negotiations up to the fiscal cliff, the president put things on the table. $400 billion in medicare cuts. he was talking about change cpi, which -- >> you're talking about more revenue. that's not big enough on medicare cuts according to simpson-bowles and others. you will have to
because in our budget that we will pass, we will lift tax reform, which many of my republican colleagues liked, but it will include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration and deal with the issue of -- >> but senator schumer, the db i want to get senator cruz's response here, but the reality is that the president is willing to throw the long ball on this big sunday of football, when it comes the gun control. and yet because of his...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes but he's another leastic hypocrite when it comes to fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun free zones for ours. >> the new nra ad which i may say i find utterly pathetic. earlier we spoke to the cousins of ashley and they have a website. log on to helpash.org if you want to help. before we go, leave me with an overview of how it has gone tonight. >> it has been a good discussion. something has to happen. i hope the president takes strong measures tomorrow and i hope congress has the courage to back him with the appropriate lesion, although i have my doubt because their past has not been an indication that they will take strong action in the future. i have heard people talk about reality checks. i have been a cop for 42 years. i don't know how many homicide scenes you have been to but i have seen what happens on the street. we are not losing them 26, one or two at a time but every life has value. when you see the carnage on the streets every day. you have to deal with it. >> fascinating debate. thank you very much
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes but he's another leastic hypocrite when it comes to fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun free zones for ours. >> the new nra ad which i may say i find utterly pathetic. earlier we spoke to the cousins of ashley and they have a website. log on to helpash.org if you want to help. before we go, leave me with an overview of how it has gone tonight. >> it has been a good discussion. something has to happen. i...
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we kept middle class taxes low. we insured that every working family across the country had a little bit more money in their pocket to get through some of the tough times. we enacted health care reform. these are real things that we did to take steps to move our country forward. this is what the american people voted for. they voted for change and they voted for action, and stloetd for a pretty specific agenda. >> i wanted to also ask you about valerie jarrett's interview with politico and mike allen. she really pushed back hard on the argument that there have not been so far enough women in key roles throughout the cabinet. i'm not talking about the whole cabinet, but the lead four. now we look at dennis mcdonough being the chief of staff. on the frontline, not enough women. she points out in her comments to mike allen and jim vaned high, i don't play golf. i don't play basketball. i don't really play cards. i don't think anybody questions whether i have a role to play here. it's irrelevant whether the president wa
we kept middle class taxes low. we insured that every working family across the country had a little bit more money in their pocket to get through some of the tough times. we enacted health care reform. these are real things that we did to take steps to move our country forward. this is what the american people voted for. they voted for change and they voted for action, and stloetd for a pretty specific agenda. >> i wanted to also ask you about valerie jarrett's interview with politico...
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taxes were set to go up by law on january 1. some house republicans said they didn't block it for everyone and they could prevail. speaker boehner brought forth blocking increase for everyone but millionaires, they balked. what passed later is something conservatives like less. they opposed that, too and they lost. some republicans are saying they have more leverage now to force spending cuts. maybe they do. but they will need to be smart about how they use it. with the senate, the white house and most of the press againstbe them, they should not expect a fair fight. >> bret: paul ryan said they need to be careful and remember what you are saying here. you had other members like congresswoman kathy mcmorris rogers in leadership saying you do need to shut down the government and make a stand. >> if the lessons of the 1990s when the republicans took control of the house tell you anything you shouldn't talk about how you are okay with shutting down the government. i said this before. people tell pollsters they want the government c
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regardless of whether it's guns or whether tax reform or immigration or energy policy, it's all the same. >> right. >> they're going to have to come to the table with a comprehensive package. in the case of guns you know the throw or four components that haven to included in the end. it's kind of a no-brainer for most but we have a hard time getting there. that's why bringing together these -- this coalition of problem solvers in congress that no labels has been able to, it's a start. by the end of the year if we get 75 to 80 such people, imagine the progress on all these important issues we'll be able to make. >> i'm going to give you the last word here. you are in a position, you do vote in the senate, and your words post newtown were taken originally as, oh, senator manchin is now for a ban on assault weapons. probably what you were talking about. >> guilt by conversation. >> so the question here is, am i correct in interpreting what you're saying, sure you would talk about an assault weapons ban, but it has to be in a more wholistic package than just here's an assault weapons ban, th
regardless of whether it's guns or whether tax reform or immigration or energy policy, it's all the same. >> right. >> they're going to have to come to the table with a comprehensive package. in the case of guns you know the throw or four components that haven to included in the end. it's kind of a no-brainer for most but we have a hard time getting there. that's why bringing together these -- this coalition of problem solvers in congress that no labels has been able to, it's a...